EP 23 - THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH

Written By Diane Teall Evans
 

This week on Get Your Shit Together…

🧡 Facts on the most feared condition

🧡 We review the CDC’s take on un/healthy diets

🧡 What people think is killing them, including real talk about [misunderstood] cholesterol

🧡 Common solutions with short term reward, long term consequences

🧡 How censorship and binary, reactive perspectives of health do us a major disservice

 
 

Resources & Good Shit

Episodes

What We’re Consuming: Media

  • Adina is v into Only Murders In The Building (Hulu) starring Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez - suchhhh a cute lil crew!

  • Diane is listening to ”The Power” by Naomi Alderman. Its central premise - women have developed the ability to release electrical jolts from their fingers, leading them to become the dominant gender. It’s a gripping sci-fi and the voice acting (audiobook) is well done!

What We’re Consuming: Food

  • Adina made a DELISH caramel she adds to her coffee. Sugar. Butter. Cream. BOOM.

  • Diane made a pumpkin syrup that actually tastes good (not like a candle) via this tutorial from @theblushhome.

  • Diane had a glam pop-up picnic featuring steak, chimichurri (always), duck fat potatoes (recipe in GYST Mini Course Cookbook)!

Other Good Shit

🧡 The GYST Mini Course

Through 4 video lessons we’ll walk you through how to nourish your health through food, sleep, stress management, and movement. Dive in for a taste of nutritional therapy and functional fitness, so you can start to get it together!

Get your GYST Mini Course.

Connect with Adina:

Instagram: @adinarubin_ 

Website: www.adinarubincoaching.com 

Connect with Diane

Instagram: @dianeteall 

Website: www.diteawellness.com 

Root Cause Reset: www.rcrprogram.com

Transcript

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Diane: 0:31

Hello? Hello and welcome back to G Y S T Adina good morning. Good afternoon. Whatever time it is. What's new over there. What are you getting into

Adina: 0:45

What is new? Well, this weekend. We had some beautiful weather and we took our tushies to the woods, which as I was lacing up my hiking boots, I was having some nostalgia. I think we talked about this in a recent episode, I think in routine refresh about like, I used to go when it was just me and Minnie I used to go hiking like once a week to the point where I would leave my hiking boots in the car, it didn't make sense to bring them into the house, you know, and loosen up my boots. It felt like, oh, I miss that consistency, but it was really nice to be in the woods. Um, we just got a new hiking backpack for Abe. So it's so cute. I don't know if you know yeah. That Osprey company, they make great hiking backpacks. And he was hilarious in there, like reaching for the trees and just like narrating our entire hike. It was so much fun. We had the best time.

Diane: 1:39

His words are so cute. I'm trying to learn how to translate it.

Adina: 1:44

You just need to listen a little bit and then it's like pretty clear, but yeah, he's, his language is really hilarious.

Diane: 1:50

so you got into the woods, did a whole family hike. I saw Dani was there Minnie and some friends

Adina: 1:55

We got Dani into the woods, which is great. It was so much fun, but you had a fancy weekend. Tell us all about

Diane: 2:02

on the opposite end while I got outside. And this was. Okay. I'm trying to get out of my comfort zone more and to try things that are more spontaneous, I guess this was more planned, but for me, this was out of my comfort zone for a few reasons. So the event was called Le Diner in Blanc so this started in Paris a while ago, and it is an all white elegant attire pop up. So a temporary set up dinner where attendees bring all of their supplies, including a folding table chairs, dinner for, to a nice dinner for two, no plastic cutlery. Okay. So people will bring in these extravagant centerpieces, all white theme, um, actual dinner plates. So that made me a little nervous. And what made me nervous was wearing all white head to toe. I spill a lot. Okay. If I have a. Tank top on right now. It's just a magnet for dog. I Bulger's for coffee. I think the last time I went to the salon, we had to wear white for an event and I spilled coffee on my way out the door. Thank you. Tide pens and lots of water, but we were super excited. So I was invited by Kendra she's my book club leader, and she had some extra invites. So this was the first time that it. was hosted in grand rapids. It's in major cities around the country, around the world, actually. And I know some people maybe do white parties on their own too, but we had a big group. I signed Neil up for this too, because you have to have a companion, a friend partner, whatever. So a table for two, and he was such a good sport. He's like, okay, help me find an outfit because neither of us have head to toe white. So I found him an outfit and this also challenged me. So one wearing white, also being on time. I can be on time for appointments for client sessions, but if it's something. An occasion or we're hanging out with friends. A lot of my friends will say, oh, just come over early afternoon, whatever that means. But we had to be there at a set time where all white follow all the rules, another challenge for me. So I was getting ready and Neil, oh, he's just the sweetest. He grilled. We did a flank steak, duck, fat potatoes and asparagus. We did a board. I found this thing that folds out I'll link it in the show notes because it would be a nice thing for home. Or if you plan on having a gourmet picnic, but we had so much fun. And just being outside in the, in the city, in this beautiful park with music, there was some live music seeing everyone's outfits and their tablescapes and how they all got together. At one time, it was just so nice seeing people and their joy and their outfits so much fun. I already want to go next year. And I know a lot of people responding to my story saying like, count me in. So let's get a group going next year. I would love it.

Adina: 4:47

Yeah, it looked so fun. And you looked, I mean, who gave you the right Diane?

Diane: 4:54

stop. Don't stop. So that was a dress that I honestly would've gotten married in and okay. If you have special occasions coming up and you're stumped on what to wear, or you don't want to buy something that maybe you won't wear again, of what I would wear this again, rent the runway. I've been a pro member with them for, I think 10 years now, because early like 2012 to 2015, I had so many events work events, weddings. So I rented this dress from self portrait via rent the runway, and you can usually get a backup size, uh, in whatever garment you're choosing, as long as no one's rented it already. And other accessories, the customer service is fantastic. So I found this all white dress from self portrait and had pockets in it. You know, we love pockets. So.

Adina: 5:39

rent the runway. If you're listening.

Diane: 5:42

us highly recommend. I've been really pleased with them. I accidentally wore the smaller size and I was like, Neil, why can't we zip this over my lats, my strong lads. And I got home. I was like, oh, I wore the smaller size. Oops. But it all worked out. So le diner in blanc, if that's coming to a city near you, try it, get out of your comfort zone. It was just a fun time to play dress up instead of wearing my soft pants all day.

Adina: 6:10

I think we all could use a break from our soft pants

Diane: 6:12

Yeah. So much fun.

Adina: 6:14

Well that sounded like a blast. And now it's time for a little segment. We like to call what are we consuming? Diane? What are you guys consuming on the media for?

Diane: 6:26

oh, how's it been? I was asking a, for? comedy reccs last time I watched clickbait on Netflix. It was kind of underwhelming, but I am really into the power by Naomi alderman. It is a book and I'm listening to it on audible. The voice actors are great. The think Handmaid's tale a little bit, but not as stressy depressing. It's also science fiction. So the premise of this is women in the future have developed an ability to send electrical jolts from their fingers and they become the dominant gender. So it's

Adina: 7:01

Oh, hell yes.

Diane: 7:02

characters. And right now they're all figuring out their power, but it's very good. So far so highly.

Adina: 7:09

I feel like a lot of your reccs have been books lately.

Diane: 7:12

Yeah, I've been tearing through those audible credits because I forgot about

Adina: 7:16

All right. Well, we are consuming, it's a show on Hulu and it's called only murders in the building notable cast Steve Martin, Martin short and Selena Gomez, which like quite the crew. Yeah. It's a cute little crew. And actually we just got up to an episode where Tina Fey becomes a character as well. And it's so New York, like, I don't know if they just build the world so well, or if I'm enjoying it so much because the building reminds me of like a lot of buildings that our friends grew up in. For those of you that don't know, Dani grew up on the upper east side of Manhattan. We lived on the upper west side for a little bit, and it's just fun to see the personalities of the building itself. Like the buildings, almost a character in the show. Um, but the premise is that unlikely crew, Steve Martin, Martin short and Selena Gomez.

Diane: 8:08

wait, Martin short and Steve Martin they've they make sense together, but how did Selena Gomez fit in? I'm curious what you think of like That trio together,

Adina: 8:18

I keep thinking of like, how much as like a young actress growing up in comedy, she must be just like in awe of the fact that she gets to work with these heroes, you know, it must

Diane: 8:27

a beauty line too. Like she's really been getting after it

Adina: 8:31

Yeah. It's fun. It's, it's definitely a fun watch. And the premise is that they all live in this building on the upper west side. It's like an old building on the upper west side that has one of these personalities, lots of characters, building meetings, that type of thing. And someone either commit suicide or they suspect it to be a murder in the building. And they're both, they're all really into murder podcasts. And so they start their own podcast and try to investigate the murder.

Diane: 8:59

oh, okay.

Adina: 9:01

fun. It's really fun.

Diane: 9:03

would you say it's a comedy then?

Adina: 9:05

Yes. Yes. It's a common.

Diane: 9:09

All right.

Adina: 9:10

it's comedy. It's just fun storytelling. And like the characters are great. I'm really enjoying it.

Diane: 9:16

I saw that pop up. So I'm going to add that to my list. So Hulu, another

Adina: 9:20

yeah. It's on Hulu episodes drop Tuesday night. I believe. I think they're going to be 10 of them and we're in episode like three or four or so.

Diane: 9:28

Yeah. All right. Well, Yeah, usually on Hulu, we've been watching bachelor in paradise.

Adina: 9:34

this is a little different flavor.

Diane: 9:37

We got into it. All right. So what are you consuming on the food front? Any new recipes we need to know about maybe put into the gyst mini courses.

Adina: 9:46

okay, this one's good. I don't know if I showed this on my stories, but I made for the first time a true caramel, like sugar, butter, and cream. And those are the ingredients and it turned into the most beautiful caramel. My kids have been loving it. I've been putting it into my coffee and it's just so delicious.

Diane: 10:11

are you team runny caramel or are you team like thick, thick, like put into turtles?

Adina: 10:17

yeah, it's funny Minnie it was like, I want the drippy part. I kind of, I didn't use a candy thermometer, so I kind of just guessed. And so some of it was a little bit more gooey and solidified and some of it was a little runnier. And so, you know, pick your flavor.

Diane: 10:31

I'm a runny caramel. That sounds really nice. So you put it in coffee without be good on ice cream too.

Adina: 10:36

Well, it's funny you mentioned it because I had initially made it to put into my ice cream. And then when I took the first scoop of it, I was like, huh, this is almost too sweet to put in my ice cream. Like, I kind of like it with the bitterness of the coffee and wait, I just remembered a hilarious joke, uh, from Brooklyn nine, nine.

Diane: 10:59

they should sponsor you. You love that

Adina: 11:01

I know, um, I think it's like Boyle, he's the character that does all the stuff that we do, like loves bone broth and raw milk. And everyone thinks he's like the weirdo for liking those things.

Diane: 11:14

Nope. Dad's drinking water.

Adina: 11:16

good, good, good. He presents a hot chocolate to Jake Peralta and says the bitterness of the chocolate brings out the sourness of the milk. And Jake says, those are the worst parts of both of those things, but raw milk, hot chocolate. Don't knock it till you try it. So that caramel is delicious and it tastes better in coffee than it does on ice cream. Hot take.

Diane: 11:43

uh, taken. That's a nice fall drink. So over here, similarly, I'm getting into hot coffee season. I know there's some people who do the iced coffee year round. No, we've made the switch over here. So I love my salted fat mocha. And that's been a recipe I've been using for a few years, but lately, honestly, I just like having like coffee cream, maybe a little bit of maple syrup, but I found a recipe on reels on Instagram for a pumpkin syrup. Yeah. And I think this also went viral and Tik TOK. So maybe it made its way over to reels. Like that's usually how these things go, but it's just a few ingredients similarly to your caramel. So it's pumpkin puree and some sugar, coconut, sugar, whatever you prefer. And some water. I did put some pumpkin spice in there and some vanilla extract. We don't measure that. We. Put a big old glug in, so kind of reduce it down and It tastes really yummy. I don't like pumpkin spice things from coffee shops, especially not Starbucks because it tastes like a candle.

Adina: 12:47

It tastes like a candle.

Diane: 12:47

And it's a pillow full of artificial flavoring. It's just off and their coffee is always burnt or tastes like dishwasher, water. So I'm really liking, adding just a little bit of this to my coffee for that fall flavor.

Adina: 13:01

We have ripped on Starbucks quite a bit on this podcast.

Diane: 13:05

At least They're consistent. Okay. And if I'm going to the

Adina: 13:08

terrible.

Diane: 13:09

yeah. It's I can count on their wifi. I'll say that I can always count on strong wifi and some other things, maybe. Okay. They have some good snacks to go

Adina: 13:19

I don't get it. Like I don't get why so many people are like, just inject the Starbucks into my veins. Like, are we missing something?

Diane: 13:30

Yeah, I don't know. And I never really considered myself a coffee snob too. Like I don't, I don't enjoy coffee black, but we do well that's that we do buy nice, like local coffee, but I'm not one to say, Oh, I have to have my pour over at this temperature. And it has to be black and the notes I'm like, I want to put some cream in there and I just don't want it to taste like you burned it. I sat so much task.

Adina: 13:53

I don't want it to taste like a burnt candle.

Diane: 13:56

No, thank you. Yeah. So we got into some good stuff in the media food experience from this past week.

Adina: 14:03

Yeah. Lots going on around here. I feel like it's been Dell for a little bit and now we're just coming out the gate with all these

Diane: 14:09

Um, we love fall. It's a moment. Well, let's get into the meat, and potatoes here. You know, what are we talking about

Adina: 14:17

the red meat, the red meat filled with its saturated, fat and cholesterol.

Diane: 14:22

some butter on top of that.

Adina: 14:24

We are talking all about heart disease today. The leading cause of death for how many years now, it's, it's been the top of the list in the U S for a long time now. And we continue to make drugs to. Treat the situation, but we are not making, we are not. Yeah. Um, I mean manage, right. That's a loose term too, because how many people are dying a year from this, but we can tell you exactly how many people are dying a year from it. It's over 650,000 Americans die from heart disease a year. So one in every four deaths. Yeah. That's whack. Um, so you tell me how well we're managing this situation, but it's not great. And the point of this episode is to open your eyes to what is going on here and to help bust some myths around what we've commonly been told about heart disease, about how to quote unquote, treat heart disease, and to invite you to, as we always do, let your guard down a little, open your heart and see what I did there.

Diane: 15:40

yes.

Adina: 15:41

Um, and, and let's take a closer look at. What is leading to this massive issue in the us and around the world truly, but certainly we know the U S is a really big problem and how can we best support our bodies to have better heart health outcomes

Diane: 15:59

Yeah, I know that. We talk about this a bit in my program in root cause. Reset. I imagine you talk about this with your clients as well. It's like that big, bad, you don't have it yet thing, but come back later and everyone's really scared of this. I know this is a very serious condition and chances are, if you're listening to this, hearing these stats, you know, someone who has experienced this or who is trying to work against this being a situation for them. Right. And

Adina: 16:25

and maybe, the person, you know, is in your family. And so you think, oh, it's genetic, I'm destined to X, Y, Z. I need to start managing my cholesterol at a very young age. Um, you know, maybe it's just kind of that looming thing that you think is your destined.

Diane: 16:41

Yes even. So, so when I was getting, I was in our programs, we talked about how this is a more downstream thing. So even if that is something that you want to make sure is not a situation for you. If you are concerned about heart health, we don't start with chasing that down. There are a lot of things, upstream foundations. We need to work on with food, lifestyle, stress management, movement, all of that. So it's not to say that we're dismissing this and our programs, but it's not the main thing that we need to focus on when we're thinking of heart health and

Adina: 17:14

Yeah. The point is like Diane and I are not writing heart health protocols for our clients. We're not prescribing heart supplements. We are addressing the body as a whole being and starting with the foundations, starting with. What are the foods you eating? How do you digest those foods so that they turn into energy to actually pump your heart, right? How is your metabolism working? Cause your heart's a muscle and your heart demands a ton of energy. And so when we're looking at this landscape of so many people dealing with heart failure and so many people dealing with issues where their heart is just like, I don't want to do this anymore. I'm out it's. We need to take a step back and think to ourselves, how can we provide enough energy to our body so that our heart has what it needs to keep going and support the rest of our body to pump that blood and keep us alive and well.

Diane: 18:08

Yeah, these stats are pretty wild and it is. Wildly unacceptable to me that the us spends the most on healthcare expenditures. And most of that is to manage and to treat chronic disease, especially heart disease, being a big one. And yet instances of heart disease and deaths from heart disease continue to climb. So this stat is pretty wild idea. And I just read one off, but like this comes from the CDC. Someone dies of a heart attack, every 40 seconds. And in the U S 2,380 people die of cardiovascular disease each day. So that's equivalent

Adina: 18:46

Each day,

Diane: 18:48

that is equivalent to 4, 7 47 planes crashing every day,

Adina: 18:53

every single day, over 2000 people die of heart disease.

Diane: 18:57

And at the same time spending on heart-related drugs is over $60 billion. That is insane.

Adina: 19:08

I know in another, another figure we saw it said over $120 billion.

Diane: 19:12

was globally

Adina: 19:13

yeah, it's just like how much money are we spending on this thing? And it's still killing us at an insane rate. So maybe we need to take a step back and think. Are we doing this right? Is there something we're missing because in our minds, there's quite a bit that we're missing. And in fact, the recommendations that we're making to manage this condition better, this condition, whatever that may be are actually making things worse.

Diane: 19:42

So let's talk about what people think is killing them or what people think is causing heart disease. Uh, media goes back and forth on this one. We've talked about this in, as it relates to other health conditions, whether it's period, health, gut health diet, and so on. So of course, no wonder people are confused because things keep switching. Right? So an example that I thought of, I remember a couple of iconic time magazine covers. My parents used to subscribe to this one. So we had it every week about, I remember in the eighties, there was one all about cholesterol and we can put it in our show notes, but two eggs and then upside down bacon, it looks sad. Oh Yeah. The frowny face avoid any cholesterol, rich foods. I was also like the height of low fat diet trend. Right then in 2014, I still remember this cover and had to look it up for this episode, time magazine ran another cover story and it said eat butter. And basically the subhead was that scientists labeled fat as the enemy, but here's why they were wrong. So people are like, wait, do I eat eggs? Do I not eat the eggs? Do I eat the butter or no? Like it changes year to year. It's

Adina: 20:50

I think that image of the egg and bacon frowny face is so burned into so many people's minds. That even when they come out and say, eat your butter, nobody remembers that.

Diane: 21:00

They like

Adina: 21:02

yeah, like when we talk about butter, sometimes people are still saying like, oh, but isn't it unhealthy? And it's like, we just can't. Once we were told to be scared of this thing, it's so hard for us to go back and use our judgment and be like, why are we so terrified of foods that are. The ancestors have been eating for thousands of years. Like,

Diane: 21:23

I know we're going to come back to this, but I know people say, well, people used to die when they were 30. And so of course it's because no, no heart disease didn't exist before a hundred or not to the degree that does before a hundred years ago. And that's when we were eating a lots of fresh butter, a lots of cream eggs beef. Oh, this one gets me hot. So.

Adina: 21:42

Diane and I are going to have to keep cooling our temps on this episode because when we were writing this outline, we were just like screaming

Diane: 21:49

yeah. We're like, this makes us pith. So yeah. It's no wonder that this is confusing because things are changing all the time. So what we try to invite you to do here is to, okay. Hit pause on that and how can we go back to basics? And as Adina said, I think our last episode on food cravings eat more food that came from the ground or from a mom, things that were always food, not these food, like substances, these margins, these can't believe it's not butter. I can't believe it either because it's nasty. So

Adina: 22:18

I can't believe it's not

Diane: 22:19

I can't believe because it's oily and it's gross that country crap,

Adina: 22:23

You ever taste butter? I can believe that that's not butter.

Diane: 22:26

actually just saw the stores and I'm just like, I like going to different grocery stores and just peeping, like new products and labels and seeing like what they're actually saying on the back. And I saw something that said challenge butter and it was butter blended with canola oil. I was like, it's a challenge. All right. To understand why you had to do that, I guess, to keep it cheap and gross, but I digress. So media is very confusing, but let's talk about what the CDC says. Leads to heart disease because everyone looks to them as an authority, right. And have mixed feelings about them. So we're going to do a little bullet overview here and then go deeper into it. So the biggest causes for heart disease, having high blood pressure smoking. Okay. You're not too surprised there. Diabetes being overweight or obese, maintaining an unhealthy diet and physical inactivity.

Adina: 23:15

So like, okay. They acknowledge that lifestyle stuff causes this. But my first question is like, if they are acknowledging that these are the things leading to heart disease, why are we not addressing them to manage and get rid of heart disease instead of just throwing money at developing more heart disease, drugs?

Diane: 23:42

right, because that doesn't make money. And I know access varies. We can't talk about this without talking about access and the privilege to choose healthy food, but let's be real. A lot of these drugs, they're not cheap and the copays are not cheap. Um,

Adina: 23:57

no, but forget about that. What if we took the $120 billion that we're spending on heart disease, drugs, and looked at this list and said to ourselves, how can we use some of those funds to subsidize better access to the things that we're telling you need to be a part of your life for this to get better? Can we make strength training, more accessible? Can we make healthy food more accessible? Can we just stop selling some of the shit that is killing

Diane: 24:24

They can, but they won't because that doesn't make money

Adina: 24:28

Right. We need to always come back to. Are we in a healthcare system or are we in a sick care system? And currently it's a sick care system. It's just keep people alive for as long as we can while they're still sick. We're not taking a step back to be like, how can we better health span, not just lifespan

Diane: 24:49

span. Ooh,

Adina: 24:51

that actually came from, I don't know where it originally came from. I had heard it from my friend, Dr. Ryan chow, maybe from his mentor, Craig Libenson,

Diane: 24:58

love that.

Adina: 24:59

I love it so much. I think we really need to be taking a better look at that.

Diane: 25:04

Yeah. Existing is different than living and thriving, and that is something that. we want to empower you to do. So let's dive deeper into these causes, right? So high blood pressure, high blood cholesterol smoking. I mean, smoking. Oh,

Adina: 25:19

I will lose my shit if we do not get rid of cigarettes soon, what are we doing? We know. That this is one of the leading contributors to heart disease in this country. Why can you still buy those? Why?

Diane: 25:34

yeah. And why can you still smoke indoors? I think I heard, cause I think Vegas, um, went back to masks indoors, but yet you could still smoke in casinos. And I think that they are pulling back on that too. Like, can we stop smoking cigarettes inside with

Adina: 25:50

I know this is something that like, we can't do this episode without talking about, because this is a huge thing that has been on my heart for the entire year, for the last two years. And I know Diane as well. We talk about this a lot, like when it comes to approaching a virus that is killing a lot of people. Sure. Like, let's talk about masks. Let's talk about vaccines. If you feel like those are options that you need to incorporate to keep you safe, but the underlying things that are killing us and that are making us more susceptible to viruses need to be a conversation like how is this not even a conversation? That for me, it's the image of the people pulling their masks down to smoke the cigarette. It's just, what are we doing? We know, we know that there are better health outcomes and better immune health outcomes and better outcomes from viruses, whatever they are. It doesn't have to be COVID you recover better when you are in a healthier body. Why is that? Not a conversation?

Diane: 26:56

Yes. Yeah, no, one's really talking about this. That's just really one narrative. One direction. It's not the band, but I, oh gosh. I still remember growing up and going to the big boy diner and there was a smoking section, but you know, that smoking section just bleeds into the rest of the restaurant. And I remember at the time really struggled with like upper respiratory stuff, sinus infections, and it just used to really affect me. And I'm so glad that there are more places that you cannot smoke indoors, but that's got to go. It's got to go. Now we can't talk about heart health without talking about the big, bad, or we say misunderstood cholesterol. So let's talk about why cholesterol got linked to heart disease. Cholesterol is always present when there are heart conditions, but it's important to know cholesterol is a healing agent in the body. It's going to be there when there's an issue when there's inflammation.

Adina: 27:52

Yeah, I mean, blaming. So that's the thing is like, yeah, cholesterol is going to be there when there's an issue, because cholesterol is repairing injury. Blaming cholesterol for heart disease would be like blaming the fire department for starting fires. Cause they're always there when there's a fire,

Diane: 28:10

yeah, that correlation is not causation.

Adina: 28:13

Yeah. Like, yeah, the fire departments there, cause they're putting out the fire, the cholesterol is there because it's laying down plaque to help repair the injured tissue. So we really need to stop chasing high cholesterol and we need to ask why is it here in the first place? What caused the inflammation? What caused the damage that led cholesterol, the healing tissue to come and address the situation. There's another example we love to, from one of our mentors, it would be like blaming flies for the garbage,

Diane: 28:48

I love that one, like. damn flies, bringing all this trash in here. And that's really the difference between that conventional mainstream sick care narrative and what we seek to do in a more holistic space honoring the entire body. And it's how it's all interconnected. And that is instead of just thinking of the, how can I make this go away? How can I throw something at this symptom? Why did it happen in the first place? And when you address the why you open up so much more of your life and your healing to yourself, instead of just chasing things down indefinitely. So.

Adina: 29:18

Right. Like, I feel like that's a simple way to put it because doesn't, that make so much sense. Like if you're listening to this for the first time and you're like, wow, no one ever explained to me what cholesterol is. They were just like, cholesterol is bad. Um, what's that joke it's from? Um, is it from it's from like a movie that was like, not so great. But do you know what I'm talking about with the gluten? Okay. I think it's Seth Rogan. I have to look this up, but he's basically. What's gluten and he's like,

Diane: 29:51

oh, I just watched this. I can't remember what it was. It was Seth Rogen movie though.

Adina: 29:55

he's like a gluten is just anything bad, like carbs. That's a gluten. It's like, That's

Diane: 30:01

That's like gluten and it's like this hand-wavy. Ooh, fat enriched foods go cholesterol. Yeah. Let's talk about statins for a second. The number for high cholesterol is, has been lowered over time. And so with that in mind, more and more people are suggested to start statin drugs or their heart drugs, and those are not innocuous. So if that has been something that's suggested to you and you are able to seek another opinion, or if you're hearing that suggestion from a doctor and they haven't talked to you at all about food, lifestyle, movement, stress, that's a red flag.

Adina: 30:43

Right. You have a drug dealer, not a

Diane: 30:45

Yes. I think we said that on past episodes too. You have a drug dealer, not a doctor but just real quick. And we're not going to go off on a tangent on these statin drugs, quickly, some common side effects of statin drugs can be weakness and muscle wasting. So that might manifest as muscle aches and pains. But hello. Remember that your heart is a muscle. So that seems kind of an odd side effect. Yeah. It's brain fog. That's another common one. So that cognitive impairment. No

Adina: 31:13

that someone wrote a book. Um, I know they reference it in, put your heart in your mouth, which is another great book about heart health, but there was a dude who wrote a book about his journey with statins and how he completely lost his memory. And when he got off of them, he came out of it. I forgot what the actual name of the book is, but we can pop that in the show notes as

Diane: 31:33

Yeah. You can put that in the show notes. If you want show motes show notes. If you want to

Adina: 31:37

modes. Oh, I got it. I got it. I got it. It's Lipitor thief of memory, statin drugs, and the misguided war on cholesterol. And it was written by a man of the name. Dr. Dwayne graveling MD and former NASA scientist, an astronaut

Diane: 31:54

oh, so, you know, he's legit,

Adina: 31:56

he suffered serious memory loss while he was on Stanton

Diane: 31:59

Yeah. That's, that's kind of a big deal. If we can avoid that memory loss and cognitive impairment. Also too, depression is a common side effect of statin drugs. So low cholesterol is linked to depression. Why? Because cholesterol helps us build happy hormones. And if you are not able to do that, that's going to affect your mood. We've also talked in episode 15, all about the sun, about cholesterol, his role in vitamin D synthesis. We love cholesterol. It's not this big, bad villain and other important things from cholesterol helps us digest dietary fat and make that thin flowing bile. What else? Why else do we love cholesterol? Adina

Adina: 32:42

well, I know we'll get into this a little bit later, but like, we do need to talk about the difference between food cholesterol and blood cholesterol, but again, like lowering the blood cholesterol and just removing the food. Cholesterol is not the answer. First of all, we'll talk about this in a bit, but food cholesterol. Blood cholesterol are no longer linked. Like we've debunked that there's plenty of science to support that the food that you eat, if it has cholesterol in it, it doesn't determine your blood cholesterol and even blood cholesterol. Like we're again, we just keep lowering this number and saying like, oh, we got to get rid of the cholesterol. Let's just put everyone on statins to lower their cholesterol. But cholesterol is health protective in so many ways. This is a repair tissue. It's kind of crazy what we're doing

Diane: 33:27

Repairs terrors irritation helps us fight against infections. It's also helps us. It's an antioxidant that can help protect us against free radicals cancer. So that's really important. Um, yeah. we've talked about it in past episodes. I think period. Myth-busting about how it's needed to make testosterone, estrogen and progesterone our sex hormones. We need cholesterol.

Adina: 33:51

yeah. The waters have just gotten so muddy on this conversation and I can't understand. Why this conversation isn't making its way into mainstream medicine. Like what are they

Diane: 34:01

it's very binary as it is oftentimes in mainstream medicine. Good, bad. You have it. You don't have it. And there's more nuance that? has to happen here and things aren't all good and bad. I mean, we talked about this in our last episode with food, but let's extend that to other components as well.

Adina: 34:18

Yeah. And again, like, if you are going into this doctor's office, they spend four minutes with you and they look at your blood and they're like, okay, here's your statin? Are we kidding? Like, there are so many questions I would want to ask you first before ever thinking. I mean, I don't prescribe medication. Why are we ignoring the things that got us here in the first place? Why are we ignoring the CDCs list of things that lead to heart disease? Like instead of prescribing this drug right away, let's take a look at that list. Let's ask this person, do you smoke cigarettes? Do you not do any physical activity? What is your diet look like?

Diane: 34:58

let's talk about that one and break that apart because we were clicking through the CDCs website and their suggestions. So we clicked on their link for unhealthy diet, which took us to their suggestions for

Adina: 35:07

Buckle up listeners.

Diane: 35:10

up. Okay. So we clicked on, and you can find this on the CDC website and the, they included recommendations or dietary guidelines for 20, 20 to 2025. And some things like, okay. Emphasize fruits and vegetables, a whole grains and fat free or low fat dairy. So we got to avoid that cholesterol. They also suggest a variety of proteins. Seafood. Yes. Love it. Lean meat. So again, they want you to avoid that saturated fat, um, low trans fats. Okay. We can co-sign that, but what's interesting is they say low trans fats, but then later when they talk about fats and oils, I just have to quick rapid read this off. They say oils are important to consider as part of a healthy diet for essential fatty acids. Commonly consumed oils include canola corn, olive, peanut safflower, soybean, and sunflower oils. They're naturally present in these foods, dah, dah, dah, dah. And then they start saying things like the fat in some tropical plants, like coconut. Are not included in the oils category because they contain more saturated fat than they do other oils. So they talk about avoiding trans fats, which we often think of as your margarine, but then they go and say to you as another highly processed, highly refined, already damaged before it gets to the shelves oil, like canola oil and these other

Adina: 36:29

entire list is like the list I give my clients of like avoid.

Diane: 36:33

It's trash, it's fucking trash dropping an F bomb because I just, it's so funny. It's like not funny at all to me that they say to avoid low saturated fats, you know, things that we've consumed for hundreds of years. And you're going to tell us that the most heart healthy fats actually oils are not fats oils are those that didn't exist before a hundred, 150 years ago.

Adina: 36:56

And wait, conveniently the rise of heart disease a hundred years ago. What a puzzle

Diane: 37:02

Interesting. And I got coconut oil. You're going to villainize coconut oil, which has so many benefits and has been used in its countries of origin for hundreds of years, without incidence of heart disease. Yeah. I don't think coconut oil is

Adina: 37:13

Diane on the case.

Diane: 37:15

I made. This was before real is they should reshare it. It was a video. I think I put on Instagram, like five years ago. I was like, oh no, I got to fry these plantains and coconut oil too, but I don't have any trans fats or canola. So like, if you think canola isn't even a plant it's from rape seed. Okay. And you have to use heavy

Adina: 37:33

Let me pause for a second. If you have never. Watched a YouTube video of how they make canola oil. Go ahead and do that. And you might not ever include it in your food. Again,

Diane: 37:45

Yes.

Adina: 37:46

it is heated treated bleached. Deodorize just so you can't tell how truly rancid it is and then put it up, putting a plastic bottle on the highest shelf in your supermarket under fluorescent lighting, just so that it can get a little more oxidation before you heat it and ingest it again.

Diane: 38:07

free radicals, precursors for cancer. No, thank you. And I cannot believe that this is a recommendation. It's just one of the stupidest things I ever heard. Like I can't even hold myself back. It makes me so hot. I'm like sweating.

Adina: 38:19

me too. I might have to take my sweatshirt off, but another thing we want to tell you is that we talked a little bit about this, but the fats that you consume in your diet, and when we say fats, we mean like animal fats, okay. Oils are not fats, oils or oils. When we consume fats, this is what our cells are made out. Right? We need good healthy cells made out of quality saturated fats for them to function properly. Okay. If we are struggling with our heart, those cells are struggling as well. If we're going to continue building that foundation out of this oxidized trash, we are not going to have a very strong foundation and those cells are not going to be able to do the jobs that we need them to do. We need to give our body really good building blocks to build healthy cells and healthy tissues for it to carry out its functions successfully. A K

Diane: 39:18

okay. Yeah. And those saturated fats have beautiful fat-soluble vitamins that we love a D E K. Love it. Mineral rich. If you're getting some at nice buttah okay.

Adina: 39:30

for heart health.

Diane: 39:30

Yes. And it's just banana. That we've gotten to this point. So again, these are cheap and they make manufacturers lots of money. You'll find it, even in a lot of nice restaurants you go to, but at home, if you, where you have control over the oils and fats that you use ditch these

Adina: 39:48

Yeah, there are like government subsidies on the materials that make these oils. And so it's really, really cheap to make products out of these and you can make a really big profit.

Diane: 39:59

Shitty for us and for our environment, because it is so heavily used it as like monocropping is a huge problem and the way that it depletes our soil. So. gosh, that's a whole other tangent, but if you take nothing away from this episode for heart health audit, the oils that you use that you consume, this one is, uh, kind of, uh, uh, duh, it, isn't no kind of about it. This is a physical inactivity, sedentary lifestyle being a contributing factor for chronic disease and heart disease.

Adina: 40:27

Yes. We have a physical inactivity crisis and we have a heart disease crisis. That is not a

Diane: 40:34

you said something that's not, it's not so much fat obesity. That is an issue, but being under muscled. Right?

Adina: 40:42

Right? We just talked about this to our hearts, a muscle. We need to exercise our muscles. We need to build strength for our bodies to function properly. We need to tell our bodies what we need them to do. We need to tell our hearts what we need them to do. It's really, really important. This is like, we cannot overlook this and we need to be paying more attention to it. We can't just keep throwing pills and band-aids at our heart health crisis

Diane: 41:07

more cardio too, which we've talked about on previous episodes, we can link those in the show notes, but you're going to get the most bang for your buck, for your workout, with strength, training and Adina as expert here. I don't say that lightly. I mean, if you are new or advanced alike, I can't recommend her programs enough. If you want a taste of her approach, we have that in the gyst mini course.

Adina: 41:29

Yeah. Thank you, Diane, for your kind words. It's always a pleasure coaching you. but I, let me Attell okay. We'll carry this on after the show. Um, but yeah, this is something that has been bothering me this year as well, where we know that the most susceptible population to getting very sick and dying from COVID were those with chronic metabolic conditions, multiple comorbidities think it's upwards of 95% of the people that died and. Any time you would try to discuss this. And I mean that, like, I think this conversation is so scary to have because things have become so polarized. And when Diane, yeah. And when Diane invite and I invite you to listen to this conversation, what we're not doing is saying that we don't care about people who died. It is terrible. What has happened here in the last two years, and what we're not doing is saying, there can only be one opinion and it's mine about what's going on here. But what we are doing is questioning the censorship, the one-sided narrative, the fact that you can get kicked off of Instagram, if you so much as suggest that strength training can give you better COVID outcomes, when it's so clear in the data,

Diane: 42:53

and that's not, yeah, that's not this cute thing. It is. There are clinical studies. Research that prove this. And yet if I've seen this too often, especially in really large accounts, Ran by physicians. They talk about that and how to strengthen your resilience, how to build muscle. And they are written off as a fat shamers, even when they do not have any emotional language around it, though, these are the facts. And I know that a lot of people are, as you would expect, feeling very emotional about this, but we need to be able to talk about things that can build your health. And here we want to do that in a way that is accessible for you and give you tools that will keep you strong, not just for this year, but for the rest of your life.

Adina: 43:40

Yeah. And again, we know that this is a very complicated conversation because of access and. The obesity epidemic in America it's very complicated. And to suggest that we should be incorporating things like strength training, we should be auditing the things that we're eating. We should be auditing our stress because stress is like a leading cause of heart disease. It's depleting your minerals. It's really not allowing your body, the energy it needs for your heart to pump the way that it needs to. And so we're not saying that that's not an issue, but I think it's important to make it a part of the conversation. The fact that it's not even a part of conversation is the biggest issue for me because it, it can't be science without dialogue. And censorship is a huge problem for me. And if you have not been aware of the censorship that's been going on in the last two years, it's certainly something to examine. Because it does not have your best health in mind. I know that it's being presented in this way of anyone who is saying something that might convince people to do something that's dangerous is problematic, and we need to shut it down. But how is that? The world we live in, like science needs to be a dialogue and it always has been, and it being a monologue is a really big problem for me.

Diane: 45:04

As we've said, we are learn it all. It's not know at all as to, so we want to. Speaking for myself in the past, like five years ago, I was in a very much like binary thinking of things are good or bad, but then I started to meet people and like hear their stories or more. I learned no, there's more to the story. Okay. And we also have talked in past episodes about how a chronic health problem calls for a chronic health solution and what we've seen and experienced with ourselves and in working with our clients is that when we address the root cause when we build health and understand how our body functions, what it needs, the messages is telling us that is where true health lies. It's not, it's never going to come in a short-term band-aid solution.

Adina: 45:49

Yeah. And, and not to say that those band-aid solutions aren't great for people who are really susceptible and who are in a position where they can't get their health in order, in a matter of time to meet, say a virus, a bandaid solution can be really helpful, but we can't, we can't approach intervention without also talking about like, okay, so what are the building blocks? We're going to lay down now to better support my health for the future.

Diane: 46:16

Yeah. And we're what 20 months in. And it's just so frustrating to us seeing that this is that the conversation hasn't expanded to include other proactive measures.

Adina: 46:27

yeah. And, and so that's the crazy thing is like 20 months ago when we started this conversation, everyone's clap back is, but this is an emergency. And my response to that is sure. Start developing a vaccine, great approach, but this will continue to be an emergency for the rest of our lives. If we don't start now also recommending take a walk, get some sunshine, these things better, your heart health, they better your metabolic health. They better your ability to Mount an immune response. It's crazy that this isn't a conversation. And the reason I brought this up to begin with was because whenever you would present data around the susceptibility of populations with multiple chronic conditions, multiple comorbidities, the response was always did you see about that one marathon runner who's totally healthy and 40 years old and died of COVID. And we've talked about this on our running yourself into the ground episode. There are a lot of marathon runners. I don't want to say a lot because I don't have a figure, but you can easily find yourself statistics on marathon runners who die of spontaneous heart attack at the end of a race. Because like we talked about on many of our episodes, signs of fitness are not necessarily signs of health, metabolic health, and

Diane: 47:56

a thin body does not mean that you are.

Adina: 48:00

having a thin body and having the capacity to run marathons. Doesn't tell us about your heart health cardiovascular activity, especially at an endurance level at an elite endurance. Does not tell us about your cardio output and your heart health and your heart capacity. We talk about this all the time with pulse, right? I used to work in the fitness industry and we were told that a low pulse meant that your client was really athletic and was super healthy. But now we know that that's a sign of a suppressed metabolism, and that means your heart is not as strong. It is not pumping out in the way that we need it to your heart is suppressing its function for efficiency to make you better at running marathons. So it's kind of complicated what we, this isn't about fat, skinny. This is about metabolic health comorbidities, how your heart functions, how your immune system functions. So it is a much larger conversation.

Diane: 48:56

Yeah, this is the first episode of ours that you're listening to go back to some that we're linking in the show, the full show notes on our website, but we, neither of us care or focus on fat loss with our clients in our programs, what we want and what we care about most is to focus on physically feeling good. So I mean, sure. Having physical goals, fine. If you want to change body composition, but prerequisite to that is fueling and nourishing yourself to sleeping, to managing stress, to moving the body. All of that is going to be prerequisite and we never chased down fat loss goals.

Adina: 49:33

Because those are the true signs of health and we want true health for all of our clients.

Diane: 49:38

Yeah. So we care about our clients' resilience most so that you can rise to the occasion of whatever life throws at you and do it well. Let's round this out. Alcohol excessive alcohol use. That's another duh similarly do cigarettes. I don't think anyone reaches the end of their life and thinks, oh shit, I should have drank more alcohol. And of course we have to say if this is something that you struggle with seek a professional counselor here, but excessive alcohol use drug use. Cigarettes, all of those are going to work against us in building that health all right. So we covered some of these over the course of this episode, but to really bring it home, we're going to break down some of the big food culprits I'm using air quotes here. Um, the big food culprits that supposedly contribute to heart disease. So we're going to break down the stories behind those little bit more first up butter. If you've listened to any of our other podcasts or you've worked with us, you know, we love butter. I can't believe we're still doing this, but again, you're going to tell me that the best heart-healthy fats are those that are oils that didn't exist. More than a hundred years ago. Don't think so. And what's interesting. Dr. Weston, a price who is actually a dentist in the early 19 hundreds, traveled around the world, observing different traditional cultures and their diets. He observed that rates of heart attack rose during periods of the year, when levels of vitamin a and vitamin D in local butter went down. So if you didn't know, vitamin a and D are fat-soluble vitamins that you'll find in saturated animal fats like butter. So instances of heart disease went up when those nutrients were not as available in the grass, fresh growing grass.

Adina: 51:21

we talked about this a little bit on our vitamin D episode as well. I believe, but something that's been kind of crazy is we sort of like decide, which are the nutrients we're going to focus on. And then everyone tells you to take them,

Diane: 51:36

In isolation,

Adina: 51:38

Yeah. In isolation, in like shitty form. So like growing up for us, it was calcium, right. It was like, oh, everyone has, oh, osteoporosis is starting to be a huge problem. Like let's tell everyone to take calcium. And like we talked about in that vitamin D episode, if we're just supplementing with these things and not telling them where to go, that's a really big

Diane: 51:57

it's like, oh, calcify something.

Adina: 51:59

yeah. It's like, we were all taking all this calcium, but if we don't have vitamin a and vitamin D, which are necessary for that process, if we're not strength training and telling our body to build bone and where to actually put that calcium, it's like what? Calcify those arteries. Sure. Here we are party time.

Diane: 52:19

those calcium chews. It's also in Tums, I believe. And like

Adina: 52:22

oh my God, Tums. I took so many tums I took so many Vita chews these like chocolatey, like, oh my God.

Diane: 52:29

chalky.

Adina: 52:31

if anyone out there took Vita, chews me up in the DMS and we can cry about it

Diane: 52:35

God vitamin D take it in isolation. And a lot of that is synthetic vitamin D fractionated or partial vitamin. So, uh, no, um, but Yeah, in butter, it's

Adina: 52:46

get your sunshine, eat your butter.

Diane: 52:48

got your sun eat your butter We can talk about heart health without talking about ancel keys. And I know in the conventional space, he's still like applauded and this hero, but his research was around, fats oils, and

Adina: 53:02

diet, heart

Diane: 53:03

yes.

Adina: 53:04

he's the dude that made us think that these fats were bad for us. And let me tell you something. I don't know if you saw the movie vice, but it's like that Dick Cheney expos it. Written by yeah. Adam McKay. I ever since I saw that, I was like, yeah. Oh my God, Christian bale is crazy. That movie ever since I saw that, I was like, I need to see Adam McKay, make a movie about ancel keys and exposing what was actually going on there because this dude framed butter for crimes that margarine committed. And he just conveniently excluded any country that didn't work towards his hypothesis. So we were just talking about how science needs to be a dialogue, and scientists come up with this hypothesis and then they try to prove it wrong. And if they can't prove it wrong, then it's a good hypothesis. But what this dude did is he came up with this hypothesis and then threw out any data that proved it wrong. So opposite of the scientific process. Okay. The thing that cracks me up is this concept of the paradox, right? So ancel keys did his research and he was like, Ooh, these seven countries prove my hypothesis. Let me tell everyone about it. Butter's terrible for you. And then you have a study like France, where they eat the most butter and

Diane: 54:25

like France or country, like

Adina: 54:27

sorry, country like France, where they eat the most butter and they have the least heart disease. And then ancel keys goes, oh yes, that's the French paradox.

Diane: 54:37

um, is it a paradox? Are there holes that you cherry pick studies or, um, I mean,

Adina: 54:44

Wouldn't it be awesome to see Adam McKay make this movie.

Diane: 54:47

Yes. I support it. I love it.

Adina: 54:49

I would watch the shit out of

Diane: 54:51

by big butter. Yes. And he didn't take into account other factors that exist in contribute to heart disease. Like the CDC was talking about like sedentary lifestyle, highly processed fats and oils and diets that are high in refined processed sugars. So not just cane sugar, but high fructose corn syrup, because you know, corn is in everything. So other highly packaged foods that are actually the true culprits

Adina: 55:20

right. We're not, we weren't controlling for any of those variables. So it's the same thing that goes on with the red meat conversation, which I know we're going to get right into we say, oh, red meat is killing you, but we're just observing people who are eating McDonald's and smoking cigarettes and have terrible lifestyle factors are completely stressed, not sleeping, not physically active,

Diane: 55:39

right. And those studies, by the way, those studies, by the way, are very difficult to do accurately over a year five. I mean, even over a month, a year, five years, 10 years, dietary recall studies just are really difficult to do perfectly. And so they don't take into account someone else's or someone's full routine.

Adina: 55:58

Yeah. I think that's important for people to realize too, is like most of the nutrition science quote unquote is dietary recall, which means someone is asking these people, what did you eat for breakfast? If I came over to you and said, Diane, what did you eat for breakfast three days ago?

Diane: 56:11

fuck if I know

Adina: 56:13

Right? Like, are we, I mean, maybe breakfast I'd know. Cause I eat something pretty similar every day, but like, what'd you eat for dinner? What'd you eat for dinner four days ago.

Diane: 56:20

What about like three weeks ago? I don't know.

Adina: 56:24

And then we call that science and let it dictate how we run our lives.

Diane: 56:28

Ma'am yes. So Ansul his, um, initial research on fat and cholesterol is still used in mainstream medicine. I still know nurses that'll say, oh, well, according to ancel keys are almost heart healthy, but yeah, that message never trickled down. Like

Adina: 56:47

right, like we said, that image a time magazine, like it just scared so many people that like, we couldn't come back from it. Like those little egg, those little egg eyeballs on time magazine. Why are we not eating eggs?

Diane: 57:00

Let's talk about eggs. Yeah. It's so scary because of cholesterol. And as we were talking about earlier in this

Adina: 57:06

Woo.

Diane: 57:08

oh, does not dietary cholesterol does not impact blood cholesterol. Right. And from 2015 to 2020, US nutrition guidelines did change to reflect this. They took that dietary cholesterol limit away. But again, this message hasn't really gotten to the masses. It's just kind of quietly changed.

Adina: 57:28

pause for a second. The us nutrition guidelines. They took it back. They looked at the data about dietary cholesterol, not impacting blood cholesterol, and they took it back. But for some reason, everyone I speak to is still telling me that they come back from their cardiologist and he said that their, their cholesterol is high and they need to stop eating eggs. Are we

Diane: 57:50

from Stu um, and this book we love and we love the woman who made it, uh, if you want to nerd out, but in a light funny read way, then go check out, eat the yolks by our friend, my previous mentor, Liz Wolf. So that's an awesome book.

Adina: 58:09

Yeah. If you've never like dove into this stuff, that's a great start. Liz is hilarious and her writing style is great. It's super digestible and it's, it's a fun read and, and breaks through a lot of the stuff we talked about on the show too.

Diane: 58:20

Yeah, we love her. Love you, Liz, um, And red meat. So this is another big one again, because of the cholesterol and the saturated fat. So, another resource, if you want to dive into this and her research, this is her whole platform, basically Diana Rogers. So the sustainable dish, sustainable dish on Instagram. But what's interesting to me is that we as a nation eat a lot more chicken now than we did 100 years ago, we used to eat a lot more beef. We used to eat more nose to tail. So honoring the whole animal by not only just eating the muscle meats steaks, we love them, but other parts that are very nutrient rich,

Adina: 58:57

And again, remember that. When we're villainizing red meat, where are we getting this information from? Is it because it's being funded by people who are creating fake meat products? So they want your money is it perhaps that, is it perhaps these dietary recall studies where we're looking at people who have wildly unhealthy lifestyles and we're not controlling for those other variables? Or is it truly the meat that's killing us? Like, I kind of feel like it's not the animals that were on this planet when we got here and we've been eating for thousands of

Diane: 59:30

and as Diana says, it's not the cow. It's the, how so, how was it raised? How is it cooked? Are you cooking that steak in canola oil? Are you, or are you cooking a happy steak with some butter? Like doing a butter based on top? Well, not Adina but

Adina: 59:48

Coconut oil, some beef

Diane: 59:50

tallow. Yeah. tallow. Yeah.

Adina: 59:53

Yeah. Like, are you using truly healthy, stable, saturated fats when you heat them up and you put your delicious, nutritious piece of meat in there?

Diane: 1:00:02

Okay. Now I want a steak. And finally, this one comes up so much with conversations around heart health, and that is salt, big, bad sodium. We can co-sign that we want to avoid heavily processed food. That's high in sodium. But the difference, I think we talked about this on a previous episode, but when we're eating highly processed, packaged foods, the salt that you have in there is not the same as a sea salt that you would use at home. When you are cooking your food. We want that the latter there? we want that salt, rich sea salt. We love those minerals. Go back to episode 23 on food cravings. If you're someone who craves a lot of salty foods and what that might mean, but unfortunately salt got dragged along the way. And people now assume that all of it is bad, as Adina said, um, maybe it is avoiding using salt in your cooking, and then you have bland nasty food, but then eating like processed food with salt.

Adina: 1:01:00

Yeah. So we need to mention this and we need you to hear this because salt contains our minerals. Our minerals run the show in our body. They dictate every process that happens. They marked they're the spark plugs that make sure our metabolism is up and running. And like we mentioned, metabolism is everything. So if we don't have those minerals that are telling our heart to pump that are providing that spark plug to get those processes going, they are not going to do the things they need to do our heart slows down and doesn't do what we need it to do. Okay. Our heart there's so much demand on our heart. Our heart needs to pump. The blood around our entire body for the whole thing to work. It's crazy how much demand is there and what we're not talking about. I know everyone has this kind of like vague understanding that stress impacts heart health. But what we're not understanding is physiologically. What's going on there when we are under stress. The demand on our body for minerals is insane. So we are dumping those minerals. We are burning through those minerals when we are under stress and then our body does not have those raw materials that it needs to get those processes going and for our heart to pump. There's a crazy study out of Israel. People with heart issues were treated with high dose magnesium and the results were astounding. And I don't know why we're not talking about this more. So we need to be looking to those minerals. We need to be understanding how our body works on the cellular level and how we can provide it with the things that it needs. So again, that goes hand in hand, like lowering the stress, bettering the lifestyle, and then also making sure that we're getting those minerals because our lives are inherently stressful and we want to make ourselves more resilient. And we want to give ourselves a chance for these better health outcomes, whether that's heart health outcomes, whether that's just overall immune health and making ourselves more resilient to whatever life throws our way. But as we've said throughout this entire episode, We can't just be throwing money at these bandaid solutions without talking about this bigger picture of what led us here in the first place. It is so crazy. How many people die a year of heart disease? How many people die a day in this country have heart disease over 2000 people a day. And we're not talking about what got us here. Like to me, that is so

Diane: 1:03:33

Yes. Unacceptable. And this may have been something that you've noticed in your family and loved ones and our heart, no pun intended, well, pun intended, open it, put it in. Then it goes out to anyone who worries about that. But what we want to do is empower you to change that and to stop that pattern, because even if something may have occurred in your family, that does not mean that you are going to experience this too. And we hope that you hear this message. This goes against a lot of the mainstream stories, but we want to take it back to the basics and empower you to change your life and change your health to, you know, that we can get passionate and fired up. My heart is pounding. When we talk about some of this garbage, these garbage stories and foods and the stories that we've been given around what it means to be healthy, but we are going to continue this conversation into next week because we have a lot to talk about on this topic. But until next week

Adina: 1:04:31

Oh, we love you. we hope this empowered you. We hope you were able to open your hearts to this conversation and that you eat your meat. Eat your butter, eat your salts, get your movement, get your sleep, manage your stress,

Diane: 1:04:48

so,

Adina: 1:04:48

all that good stuff.

Diane: 1:04:50

yeah. So see you next week.

Adina: 1:04:52

We love you, baby.

Diane Teall Evans
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