EP 3 - MISTAKES YOU’RE PROBABLY MAKING WITH FOOD - PART 2

Join us for part two of our discussion about popular diet trends and food fads. We’ll be diving deeper into these topics in future episodes, but want to help you cut through the crap 😏 ASAP.

We’d love to hear from you – what trends did we miss? What do you want to hear more about in future episodes? Let us know over on Instagram.

In this episode of Get Your Shit Together we chat about:

🧡  Celery juice and juice cleanses

🧡  Bean protocol

🧡  Intermittent Fasting

🧡  Whole30

🧡  Common mistakes when going gluten free and dairy free

Resources & Good Shit

• If you missed Part 1, check it out here: Ep 2 - Mistakes You’re Probably Making With Food - Part 1

Connect with Adina:

Instagram: @adinarubin_ 

Website: www.adinarubincoaching.com 

Connect with Diane

Instagram: @dianeteall 

Website: www.diteawellness.com 

Transcript

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Adina: 0:01

You're listening to get your shit together with Adina and Diane, a digestible health and fitness show for women real quick. The content of this podcast is intended for general information only, and is not medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment chat with your healthcare provider before making changes. Okay. Okay, cool. I think they got it. Let's jump right into this week's episode. hello and welcome back to the G Y S T podcast. What's up Diane.

Diane: 0:33

Not much chilling. How are you over there?

Adina: 0:36

are we are good. What is going on here? We're just hanging out. I interviewed a babysitter last night, which hopefully by the time you guys are listening to this, I have some childcare

Diane: 0:49

Cause right now it's Minnie

Adina: 0:51

Yeah, Minnie is watching Abe. Because it's hard out here right now. And it's hard out here to be a mom

Diane: 1:00

In a Pandi

Adina: 1:01

in a Pandemi,

Diane: 1:04

So does she give him treats, well, I don't think you've put this on your story, but Minnie was,

Adina: 1:09

Diane, those are exclusive videos that I send just to you

Diane: 1:12

Oh shit.

Adina: 1:15

Dan's referring to, I sent her a video recently of Minnie telling Abe to sit so that he could get a treat, which I have no idea where she learned that from, because I don't really use that language around food My sister has a dog, so maybe she's like, Modeling that, but it was so funny. She made him sit and she was bringing him snacks.

Diane: 1:36

in one of our texts threads, Somewhere. You're saying that Abe is like your puppy. And I refer to Doug. My pug is my son. So

Adina: 1:47

lil swappy

Diane: 1:47

swap. Yeah.

Diane: 1:49

So over here we got our first snow in Michigan, this late in the year. Yeah. And

Adina: 1:54

snow. Our first snow is, a couple of weeks ago now. And it was so fun by the way, it was like a big snow storm, like fluffy, fluffy,

Diane: 2:04

like a foot.

Adina: 2:05

yeah, and I

Track 3: 2:06

bundled Minnie up, you know

Adina: 2:08

how kids look in snow

Diane: 2:09

Like little marshmallows,

Adina: 2:11

and like their hat is like coming down over their ears and their scarfs, like coming up over their ear. It's

Diane: 2:15

the cutest

Adina: 2:15

everything meets in the middle and, I threw her on a snow tube, down a Hill. It was so much fun, but also really grounding by the way I full on laid back into a fluffy pile of snow and just let it hug me and stared at the clouds and felt one with the earth. It was everything I needed.

Diane: 2:35

Maybe we need to do that too. Cause we got some inches last night I looked out and saw Neil shoveling the driveway and. He was making a snowman, he was making a snowman by himself. He came in and he said that one of the neighbors was like, where's your snowblower? And Neil's like, it's a good workout. He prefers to shovel. The driveway

Adina: 2:56

my God. Wait, this was funny too. I

Track 3: 2:58

was. So when Minnie was playing

Adina: 3:00

in the snow, she here's the thing. Playing in the snow is impossible for toddlers. Like a toddler taking a step in the snow is like, they're probably burning 30,000 calories in that one step. So I didn't anticipate that. And we were playing, she was having the time for life and then she hit a wall, like the hardest I've ever seen her, just completely bonk. She could not move. She was cold and tired. It came on so suddenly, and we were playing. Down the block from us at a friend's yard and she couldn't make it back to our house. It was impossible for her to take one more step. So I was wearing Abe in the carrier. I have like a winter coat that wraps around me and Abe it's

Track 3: 3:46

like our Muppet man coat. And. Minnie insisted

Adina: 3:50

that I carry her home. It was the saddest looking thing I've ever seen, but I scooped her up. I'm like holding the two of them and I passed someone and they were like, Whoa, you're super supermom. And I was like, is there any other kind of mom? But yeah. Then he made some joke, like, Oh, I guess this is your

Diane: 4:09

workout for the week

Adina: 4:11

the week bra, have you seen me and my other babies? My kettlebell, like,

Adina: 4:16

I was just so crazy to me that people's assumption of a woman holding a heavy thing is the hardest thing she's done that week anyway, off my soap box. So, yeah. How's your, how are you enjoying your snow over

Diane: 4:33

Loving it, I love it.

Track 4: 4:34

It's just that Netflix weather, you

Diane: 4:36

know, especially we're recording this right after the holidays and I just want to snuggle up and work my way through my queue so that in mind, some things that we're digging into and watching over here. I also, well, I also love you to like British beauty vloggers. Like some of them just have really soothing voices, Lisa Eldridge. She's just so calming. But I like seeing everyone's end of year favorites, whether that's beauty, skincare books, all that kind of stuff. And then, Netflix, they are taking away the office December 31st. So by the time you're listening this it's already gone,

Adina: 5:15

they've been making so many threats with things that they're moving. It's like you try to watch it and up in the corners, just like a little

Diane: 5:21

Time's running

Track 3: 5:22

that says when it's ending.

Diane: 5:24

I think, maybe you've seen this meme too, but I've watched, I personally, I know you have it as well. Watch the office through at least like five, six times, maybe more. I have all the DVDs, but I realized that my Netflix subscription at times has just been me paying for the office.

Adina: 5:43

Yeah,

Diane: 5:44

what are you watching over there?

Adina: 5:46

What are we consuming? We are consuming. Okay. I'm going to get really, really. Eastern European Jew on you today with my picks. Okay. Because what I am consuming both media and food right now is. To my roots. So as far as film, we just watched an American pickle, which is, I honestly, like my question is, are non Jews enjoying this movie because, okay, good. Because it's a deep dive, okay. Here's the premise. Just listen here. We out on the premise, Seth Rogan plays both his. Great grandfather from Eastern Europe and his hipster, like present day hipster, Brooklyn

Diane: 6:35

so hipster. When I saw him walk out, I was like, Oh my gosh.

Adina: 6:39

Yes. And so the premise is that the great, great grandfather or great-grandfather I think it's his great grandfather Comes to America is working in a pickle factory, falls into a VAT of pickle juice and gets perfectly preserved in the pickle juice for a hundred years and emerges in present day Brooklyn and meets his great-grandson.

Diane: 7:04

also Seth Rogan.

Adina: 7:07

like was this movie created by an algorithm for me alone. That's how I felt when I first heard that this was coming out anyways, it was so delightful, really enjoyed it. Great. Seth Rogan moments, really like both offensive Jewish portrayal and heartwarming, like love of family Jewish portrayal. So it really resonated with me. It was, it was a good time. I really enjoyed it.

Diane: 7:40

I was wondering what you thought of that.

Adina: 7:41

Yeah. the reason I say I'm getting real Eastern European on it because my, what am I consuming food wise is, Oh, this is deep. This is like, have you ever heard of, and I already know the answer is no.

Diane: 7:58

No.

Adina: 7:59

Okay. Sometimes some people pronounce it. Yapyapsick, yapchick, it is a Yiddish word and it's basically a slow cooked piece of meat with, uh, cheese-less potato casserole on top.

Diane: 8:16

how do you do a potato cass is it like mayonnaise?

Adina: 8:21

No. So it's just, uh, I guess quiche crustless quiche would be a better description. So like, That's called kugel potato kugle and it's the best thing ever. Um, Basically for our shabbos lunch sometimes in the winter, since we can't cook on Saturday before shabbos starts. So Friday afternoon, I will put into a crockpot just like a piece of meat. So either I'll use like a brisket or a boneless short rib. And on top of that, I put the batter for this crustless potato quiche, this kugle so it's pretty much potatoes, onion, egg, salt, and pepper. And I just pour it on top and then. On Saturday morning, the smell in my home of a meat and potatoes is so overwhelming. And it's just ends up being this like pudding, a potato situation into soft meat.

Diane: 9:16

Oh, I love that. I am just really in the mood for grounding, like nourishing comfort foods. And that sounds like it

Adina: 9:23

I'm gonna write down the instructions for you and you're gonna. Your Filipino ways you are going to execute the most Eastern European dish. There

Diane: 9:32

Yes. And before we, before we dig in and we talked about our childhood upbringing in some of our comfort foods, uh, through childhood too, I was able to visit my family. They're from Virginia Beach. You live in Virginia Beach and there's a big Filipino community there, here in grand Rapids, Michigan, not so much. So when I go home, I love getting some Filipino food from a couple of local places or cooking it at home. Um, my Lola, my grandma's no longer with us, but my mom. Got me a Filipino cookbook, and I'm so excited to learn some new to me recipes. And finally try my hand at lumpia. So Filipino egg rolls, which is they're a lot more thin than say Chinese egg rolls. And it's mostly pork, or someone could do be filling. But typically pork, not for you and, um, with some carrots and cabbage it's. So delightful. And I just remember, like in years past my Lola, my auntie Linda making the wrapper and the lumpia and their kitchen while watching like Filipino soaps or something, I think probably. So it was so good. I have some lumpia and some Poncet, which is like a noodle dish. Um, and they put chicharrones or like, um, crumbled pork cracklings on top.

Adina: 10:47

that's one that I've always been eyeing by the way. Like when people grab just those like pork rinds in the bag from whole foods, I'm like, that's a nice grab and

Diane: 10:57

Yeah. Yeah, just some pork rind. So it goes on top of the noodles. Maybe you could do like a, a chicken cracklin on top could make that kosher friendly.

Adina: 11:06

as Eastern European as it gets like the scraps of the chicken. Let's just fry those

Diane: 11:11

Schmaltz. Yes.

Adina: 11:14

It always gets me when, like really, really super not Jewish people say schmaltz. Cause that is like deep Yiddish

Dianee: 11:26

Okay. Yes. I feel like the other day I said something when we were recording and you're like, Oh, I'm like, Oh, that, what did I say, shmutz

Adina: 11:36

where, where are you learning these Yiddish words? Also something cool about, I know we talk about this in the nutritional therapy space, a bunch that we have different needs based on our traditions. Like. Where you were situated in the world, oftentimes dictated your nutritional needs. And so there's something emotionally nourishing about cooking foods of your ancestors, but physiologically, those might serve you better. And I know this comes up, we always talk about making room for foods that are. Really cultural for our clients. Like if you're going to tell a client not to eat rice and that's like half the diet of their ancestors and what they are comfortable eating and what really makes them feel safe as a practitioner, you always need to ask yourself like, am I just. Blanket making rules based on what I think is quote unquote, proper nutrition, like really considering culture and where people came from and what their ancestors were eating. It's that's a really important part of the equation

Diane: 12:53

absolutely. Or how can we upgrade it? for me now I cook it in bone broth, um, and make sure I really wash my rice and there's so much benefit to bring them back to those nourishing foods and things that nourish you beyond just a nutrient level, which I'm sure we'll be getting into. Uh, but today we're going to dive into part two of food myths. We went deep last episode. So if you miss that one, go back to episode two, where we cover things like low fat, high, fat, no animals, all the animals. And in this episode, we're going to go through more food fads and trends. Some we like, but a lot that we are not a fan of. And we hope that this helps you release any sort of pull or obligation to try the next trend. Um, simply because it is popular. So we'll help you cut through the crap.

Adina: 13:45

as we always do. So the first one up for today that we want to dig into here is when people go ham. On one single vegetable or food. So we've seen this a lot with the celery juice cleanse. Um, how many of you are juicing celery? Every day? I know we had this conversation when it was like the height of the celery juice cleanse

Diane: 14:16

Yeah. Is it on its way out? I don't, I don't know. I'm seeing less of it. Maybe it's just like. Either the people who are doing it, aren't talking about it as much, or moving on.

Adina: 14:26

yeah, I don't know. But I remember at the height of it, I would go to whole foods or trader Joe's and I couldn't get a damn piece of

Diane: 14:33

I just want to make a mirepoix let me make my mirepoix in peace.

Adina: 14:41

people literally hoarding that celery. And that was annoying for me,

Diane: 14:48

and it's just not sustainable. Right. Which was the theme of a lot of these trends. I'm going HAM, going hard on anyone food. And we've talked about this too. As it relates to, work with our clients, like oftentimes, and again, no shame if you are doing, if you like your celery juice, but sometimes what we see is. You ended up drinking more water. So if you're starting your day with celery juice, you're hydrating. And certainly there are perhaps some benefits there, but you don't need to do the most there. Maybe it's just waking up and having water instead.

Adina: 15:21

Yeah. I also remember I was reading about this because I was kind of curious why so many people were reporting, feeling amazing, drinking celery juice. I've never felt better. And I actually read about a connection that some of the minerals in the celery juice can actually help to increase stomach acid, which might be. Why you were feeling so much better because your stomach acid was so low and now you're actually fighting pathogens, digesting your food. When there are so many more sustainable and more nourishing ways to raise your stomach acid and easier, like easier, don't be juicing, you know, dirtying up that juicer, covering your counter in celery juice. I just feel like we need to take a step back and think about How can we accomplish what you're trying to accomplish

Diane: 16:09

by doing less.

Adina: 16:11

by doing less and again, by sticking to a balanced, sustainable approach to food like juicing an entire head of celery every morning

Diane: 16:24

and what will you do when you're traveling? It's just not sustainable.

Adina: 16:28

Yeah. And also, that can kind of shift the balance in the body and might not be a great option for a lot of people. So be mindful with your juicing

Diane: 16:37

and on that note too, another one that is gaining popularity and I think is still, I'm still seeing this a lot, in the social media space is the bean protocol, dah, dah, dah, the magical fruit. So as far as I. I guess I should have looked at like what the, what the guidelines are for some of this stuff. Are you more familiar with the bean? I know that's like, it's, it's like a quarter cup of beans per day.

Adina: 17:04

Um, yeah, it's a lot of beans. So I actually, briefly glanced at it because I did a Q and a, on my Instagram stories a while ago. And somebody asked me about that bean protocol and I had never heard of

Diane: 17:14

Mm. I think it's a woman that created it. It's like her, it helps her daughter or something.

Adina: 17:21

yeah. And, so basically her argument around it is like the fiber in beans binds to whatever toxins are in your body and just pulls them right out of there. So. Cool like maybe the fiber in there, we've talked about the raw carrot salad and how that fiber can be helpful in binding estrogen and clearing some toxins from the body. But the thing is beans and other legumes, nuts seeds can be so irritating to your digestive system

Diane: 17:57

which is maybe already irritated. No, most likely, already irritated.

Adina: 18:02

If you're looking to something like the bean protocol, if you're struggling with your skin, I know a lot of people are looking at it for acne I'm not going to disagree, count their results. If somebody is getting results with it, go ahead, enjoy your dang self. But just from a physiology perspective here, we need to look at the anti-nutrients in legumes and how they can actually be robbing you of the nutrition. The food that you're eating, how difficult they are to break down and how much irritation that can be causing in your digestive tract. Short-term and long-term. And again, like why, why are we eating so many beans?

Diane: 18:44

Toot toot beep beep. You know, animals have their defenses in nature, their claws, their teeth, uh, and so do plants too. And I think that's something that we don't think about. So in. Legumes nuts seeds. They have their coating or a shell or, as Adina mentioned, anti-nutrients so think of this as like the plants, the nuts seeds, grains, uh, they have protection in nature and in our guts, those are difficult properties to break down. So phytates, lectins, those can be irritating on the gut and we need. To properly prepare them. Should you include these foods in your diet. So especially, uh, beans and legumes they're better tolerated, but still even. So for some who have compromised digestion or they've had months, years of gut issues, this is not going to feel comfortable when you first, when you start something like this and the theme that we want to reiterate to you throughout all of these trends is that. It doesn't have to be something so extreme in order for you to get results. And what we found with our clients, I think Adina you'll agree is that, really babying the gut is where it's at when you are trying to recover and heal it. We just don't like going ham on any one food.

Adina: 20:04

yeah. I've, I've asked clients in the protocol phase to eliminate. Beans and legumes. Because I find that we just get our results much quicker when we're not also introducing these foods that can potentially be so irritating. And we talk about in our framework, really the goal is to be able to include as many foods as you enjoy and as many foods as you want to, but being mindful that during that protocol phase, that really intensive healing phase where we're trying to give the gut a hug and make sure that our digestion is really up and running. That we are kind of steering away from some of these foods that can undermine our progress. You know, you're doing all of this work to nourish and heal. And if you're including all of these foods, that can be so irritating and especially so much of those foods that can be so irritating. Like it's not as sometimes food it's every day, three times a day with every meal. If you are asking yourself, How can I grind up this thing and include it in a snack and hide it in a snack and

Diane: 21:06

Beans beans, beans, beans, beans,

Adina: 21:08

Yeah. It's it's, it seems like a lot of work

Diane: 21:12

and not as tasty.

Adina: 21:15

an unnecessary focus on one singular food. That's going to solve all your problems.

Diane: 21:19

And we've also talked too about, in the last episode about plant-based diets and how they invariably include a lot of beans and legumes um, and need to combine them with grains. Right. And we just talked about how nuts seeds, legumes, grains can be tough on the gut. So for that same reason, if you're eating a lot of beans, it's easy to. Perhaps it go really starchy or I have too many carbohydrates in your diet. So not a fan. I also had several clients who have tried the bean protocol before we worked together. And they started because they were struggling with bloat and gas and they abandon it because it made it that was worse. And they just were like, Oh, it's just, it's just a lot of beans, a lot of

Adina: 22:03

Yeah, I've, I've actually seen people talking about it and saying that their acne got better. but they do fart a lot. And I was like, Should we not be taking a step back and asking, what is that communicating to us about this food that you are

Diane: 22:23

If your gas and out your partner or your roommates, your dog doesn't want to be around you. Cause you so stanky. It's just not, not fun. I actually just saw a meme yesterday. It was cackling that cry laughing. And it's this, this couple in bed, it looks like they're in a fight or something because the guy's turning away. And she says, you're wondering like, is he thinking about other women? And then his thoughts, if she farts like that one more time, I'm going to press charges.

Adina: 22:53

Yeah. So steer clear of those beans three times a day at every meal.

Diane: 23:00

toot tootbeep beep. So I think we covered all the, I think those are all the trends of a single food, but side note remember when kale was just a buffet garnish and then it had like a glow up a few years ago. I still love kale, but there was a time when that was, uh, just at buffets

Adina: 23:17

Yeah. Seriously it's so funny. Like curly, kale. That's what it was curly kale. Like I would like curly Kale's PR team to start working for me.

Diane: 23:26

It's having a moment. Uh, we did talk about celery juice, but you know, juice cleanses, I see these crop up a few times per year, what are your thoughts on juice cleanses?

Adina: 23:38

Juice cleanses aware are all of the calories. Where is all of the nutrition? Where's the fat, where is the protein? So many questions? It's funny. Detox can be a very dirty word. And I came from like the fitness industry where we laughed at juice cleanses. Cause it was the conversation of. You don't need a detox. You have a liver to do that. And then entering the nutritional therapy world where we recognize that, yes, you have a liver to do that, but some of our livers need a little love

Diane: 24:20

a little overburdened.

Adina: 24:21

Yeah. They're overburdened from our environment. They're overburdened. They're just not up and running the way that we need them to be. And so. Landing somewhere in the middle where we can do, we can and need to often do a lot of things to support the liver so that it properly does its job of detoxing. But a juice cleanse is not, it

Diane: 24:45

yeah, if you enjoy juices here, they're great. Uh, but too often I hear, um, women tell me that they do juice cleanses and they just feel exhausted they're hungry. And they're ignoring those hunger signals and just powering through that because, and power to you. If you're, if you're like, okay, I want to commit to something, but is committing to something like this, where you are hungry and ignoring those. Signals. And just for the sake of finishing your cleanse really worthwhile.

Diane: 25:15

Even things like, I know you don't like smoothies that Adina said they're not my favorite, but here, like in there, I'll add them in, in the summer. Uh, but even, so I think, I think that we feel more satisfied when we are chewing and enjoying food. So maybe it's something that you add on top of the rest of, of well-balanced nourishing diet here and there, don't see it as a means to, um, give you a quick fix in fat loss or in detoxing your liver, because that's just not it

Adina: 25:43

Yeah. And I think, I feel like people turn to juice cleanser. First of all, as you were saying that I was thinking part of me wants to like sit down and actually calculate the calories in a day of juice cleansing because it can't be more than like 500.

Diane: 25:58

Like a toddler needs more calories,

Adina: 26:01

Yeah, my toddler eats like 1500 calories a day. So if you're eating less than Minnie check yourself,

Adina: 26:07

um, but I think people turn to juice cleanses a because they're trendy, but B because they feel so lost. Like if you're at a place where you're just so uncomfortable and. All foods are irritating your digestion, and you feel like you're gaining excess weight and you have no control over it. Like you haven't figured out that your thyroid is playing a role. Your metabolism is playing a role. I think people get so scared of eating more foods and they look at this thing and maybe. For a day or two, you feel better because you've eliminated so many of the foods that were irritating to your gut and you've given your digestive system a break. But the really cool thing is that you can do that and you can have those results, eating more eating nourishing foods, you know, switching from a bowl of cereal with processed, skim milk to. A piece of steak or some eggs in butter with potatoes. Like you can feel those feelings of your digestive system having a break and your body having a break from those processed foods. But while replacing it with nourishing, nutrient dense calorie, rich foods, which might sound scary if you are the kind of person that's looking to a juice cleanse, but sometimes. That I, yeah, that's kind of been my experience. I feel like people turn to that because they just think they have no other

Diane: 27:41

Right and have to do less. So give my system a break. And similarly, I think this is also why, women may choose the next trend that we see, which is intermittent fasting. So they're thinking, all right, well, I indulged a lot last night, so I'm just not going to eat until noon. That's very popular right now. And like Adina was just saying with juice cleansing, sometimes women are, and people are turning to this because they think I need to reset. I need to give my digestive system a break, perhaps, or if they have a really busy action packed schedule with work, they think I'm not really feeling hungry. So I'm just going to not eat until noon. I'm intermittent fasting, but. That might actually be under eating, the rest of the day. Let's also think about how much stress you have, mental, emotional stress, um, your physical activity level. You may find that you are exhausted later in the day, and you are further furthering that stress on the body by not giving the fuel that it needs. We'll hear often from women that, Oh, well this works well for my partner. Um, my male partner, my boyfriend husband, have you. And remember that men have different nutritional needs and, and hormonal fluctuations than we do. So ask yourself why you are doing this. Um, I know that we think maybe granola on the go or just a quick, smoothie might be the answer, but as Adina and I we'll talk about plenty on this podcast. We want you to eat more, and. Intermittent fasting is very, could be very stressful.

Adina: 29:19

I wouldn't even say can be I would say is intermittent. Fasting is very stressful to the body for the female body. Like that's I think you hit the nail on the head. So many people. Are like, Oh, my boyfriend does intermittent fasting and he looks amazing. And he has so much energy, but we are so different than men and this diet got trendy, but let's call it what it is. You are skipping breakfast. You are not intermittent fasting.

Diane: 29:46

Yeah, it was kind of like what dancing around the moment. Yes. It is not something that we ever we ever use with our clients. Is it? And especially for women who are of a cycling age, so you have a period or you want to have it, maybe you've lost your period too. This is specially to those of you who do not have a regular period or a tough one. Intermittent fasting is not the move in order for you to have a healthy period of healthy cycle, you need to let your body know that it's safe. And if you are chronically under eating, especially skipping breakfast, and just moving on about your day, that is telling your body that is not a good time. We don't have enough nutrients, enough nourishment in order to have a healthy. Ovulation healthy cycle. Even if you are not trying to conceive or to, have children, your body is constantly trying to prepare you for that. And your fertility will show you or lack thereof, a report card for your overall health. So eat up

Adina: 30:42

Yeah. Like if you think about it, we have to always think about. Physiologically why these things were put in place. We have to think about what our life was like when we were Hunter gatherers or when food wasn't as available. And so. If you think about the messages you're sending to your body and you just step back and look at them as messaging to the body, not thinking trends, not thinking intermittent, fasting, not thinking keto, cleansing, like, think about the physiology. Think about the message you're sending to your body. So if you have just slept through the night and, or not slept through the night, if you're fasting, that might be a very big reality

Diane: 31:19

and sugar go crazy

Adina: 31:22

Yeah. If you have, it has just been nighttime and you haven't eaten anything and maybe you haven't eaten anything since 6:00 PM because you heard you weren't supposed to eat after 6:00 PM.

Adina: 31:30

You're not supposed to eat in the evenings, so you haven't eaten in awhile and then you wake up and instead of. Eating a nourishing meal and communicating to your body. We are safe. Food is available. I have the time to sit down and eat my food. You're saying, go, go, go quick, run no food. There's no food. Anywhere. Body start doing what you need to do. Here's some caffeine. I'm just going to shove down my gullet because we got to just go. We got to do this stuff. We got to drop the kids off and sorry if I'm stressing you out with that portrayal. But think about the message that you're sending to your body. You're telling your body. There's no time. There's no food. We got to go, we got to continue. We got to do this stuff. And so that is so stressful and a body that is getting that message is not going to want to ovulate and tell you that it's a good time to have a baby, because like Diane said, even that's not even, that's not a goal of yours.

Adina: 32:22

Ovulation lets you know that your body feels safe enough to do so. And so intermittent, fasting hard pass for me, for females.

Diane: 32:33

old pass. So I love having clients front load their day. And if you're thinking, well, I have a very, busy schedule in the morning, especially those of you who, if you have children, you're trying to get them up out the door or have you, smoothies are not my ideal breakfast, but if that is your only way of getting something in, add a complete protein to it, or maybe it's overnight oats and you added some protein to that, some protein powder to that, I would prefer that to you skipping it, or just going for some.

Diane: 33:03

Simple quick burning energy, like a granola bar, which will leave you hungry in 20, 30 minutes. Right? We've all been there where I'm like, wait, didn't I just eat, but I'm still hungry. Right? So something that is more nourishing and filling will serve you and help you get to lunch without feeling so exhausted or, stressed or. Anxious even I have definitely heard from clients as they add more food and front-load their day. They feel not only energized throughout the afternoon and through their work Workday. Uh, but also their mood feels more, even they feel more resilient. And I know some of you might also like to exercise in the morning, which we'll be getting into, um, fitness and all of that in, one of our next episodes. but. If you are eating dinner at 5:00 PM, sleeping through the night, hitting that coffee, caffeine coffee, and the coffee straightaway thing into a very intense workout or, lifting heavy and finding that you feel exhausted afterward. You can't be running on empty and going so hard. So it's an invitation to eat more.

Adina: 34:15

eat more. The next trend I wanted to talk about is kind of similar to, and I think it also falls into that bucket of new year, new me type approach to, nutrition. And let's not call it nutrition because that's dieting, but whole 30, I think whole 30 comes up a lot in January. And I think there are really redeeming qualities to a whole 30, however, I think this has also gotten pretty bastardized. I think it ends up being just that diet that people go to when they're feeling

Diane: 34:48

revolving door.

Adina: 34:50

yeah, I got to reset. I got to do my, my January, whole 30. I got to reset and there's so much restriction in that diet. And in that mindset of that diet, And I feel like, like you said, it just ends up being this revolving door where people do a whole 30, they cut out all the processed foods, they feel good. And then they reintroduce all the foods all at once without doing any gut healing work. And then they feel like crap. And then a couple of months they're like got to do another whole 30

Diane: 35:21

And what did we, what did we learn there? And I have mixed feelings on this because I think early on, this is several years ago before I was an NTP. I did a whole 30 and I felt amazing. But as we were talking about earlier with say, uh,celery juice felt amazing,

Diane: 35:35

perhaps because I was. I had removed plenty of processed sugars, conventional dairy, other things that were not serving me. And so of course I felt well, um, during that time, but I also was one of those who, all right, finally, day 31 is here. I'm going to reintroduce pizza, AKA, like everything that I had removed. And so I wasn't able to successfully isolate my personal reactive foods. Um, and. This is also only changing one variable. So removing commonly inflammatory foods, but what is absent from this program as they've written, it is a gut healing and supporting function as well. And so there are some great things, like, I still love some recipe developers who are like whole 30 recipe developers, like no crumbs left. She's just a character. You haven't seen her. She has some fantastic recipes that. can serve you throughout, you know, out well outside the whole 30, but, I think that too often, this is seen as just a diet and when it has that end point and you go back to, what wasn't serving you before? That's not supporting a more long-term, healthier lifestyle.

Adina: 36:48

Yeah. And I think too, it also doesn't take into account. A lot of this stuff we talked about with bio-individuality around these foods. And again, like, I think it's just, it's more the mindset of the whole 30. That is really a big problem for me and the demonization of. Certain foods that really are wonderful nutritious foods and like how we can fit those in. And again, that re-introduction needs to be approached, more thoughtfully

Diane: 37:19

Yes.

Adina: 37:20

Okay, this is the last one I want to touch on for today. This happens often with the whole 30 paleo world as well, which again, we are eternally grateful to because really wonderful recipes come out of there. It is a very accessible way for people to learn how to. Eat more nutrient dense plates and move away from processed foods. But the same thing, we talked about veganism, where we end up with all of these vegan junk foods, because we live in a capitalist world where people are going to continue making processed foods that fit the labels of these diets that we're now doing. And so a trap that I see so many people fall into and so many of my clients. Is when they try to go gluten-free and dairy-free, which may not be right for everyone, but can be really helpful for a lot of people in a healing phase of a protocol, especially gluten-free dairy-free is kind of a little bit more individual to the person and the quality of the dairy. But what I see happen so often is we're so focused on the foods that we're

Adina: 38:30

removing, like gotta remove gluten gotta remove dairy that we don't. Thoughtfully choose the foods that we are replacing them with. And so what ends up happening is instead of just removing processed wheat and other foods that have sneaky, hidden gluten and conventional dairy and other foods that have really crappy it, conventional dairy ingredients, we end up just eating, basically an all nuts

Diane: 39:00

All nuts.

Adina: 39:02

We've replaced our milk with an almond milk, and we've replaced our bread with these paleo breads that are made out of nuts and seeds. And we've replaced. We replaced our cream cheese with an almond cream cheese, and now you are literally eating a mouthful of almonds at every meal and every snack in various forms. We're baking with our almond flour and nuts. Like we talked about earlier can be. A good food for a sometimes food. And if you properly prepare them, however, they can be so irritating to the gut. So inflammatory and all of these forms that you're finding them in when it's just ground up almond flour, that's been sitting on the shelf. That's rancidified that's irritating. That is probably causing more harm than good

Diane: 39:51

and it's not an, I know sometimes people are choosing dairy free in avoiding animal foods. Like we talked about in last episode, because they are concerned about in the environment too. of course we can agree that factory farm animals, we don't love that, but there are also the environmental impacts of almond.

Diane: 40:10

Almonds as well, and that they are so heavily sprayed with glyphosate or Roundup, which is very problematic for our health. I saw actually that just last week, California is banning, glyphosate, which is a great move

Adina: 40:23

about frigging time

Diane: 40:26

Let’s see everybody else follow that too. And so if this is the first time you're hearing this just think about what are we replacing those foods with like Adina said. And too often I see with gluten-free baking, it is just almond. So if one of my clients are following gluten-free, Protocols. We like to look for baking recipes that include other things. So maybe it's coconut flour and arrowroot and cassava flour flour. And just switching it up because we don't, we want to give ourselves some variety, but, most of our clients have compromised guts and almonds. Aren't tough on that gut. So when we say properly prepared, we're talking about soaking and sprouting and if you're like, Oh, what, or how did I do that?

Adina: 41:05

So the way I like to explain this, actually, so Diane was explaining earlier about how anti-nutrients can be. Are are basically plant and nut and legumes defenses in nature. So it's their way of when animals and now humans eat them. It's their way of trying to resist digestion and end up back in the soil where they belong, like their mission in life. That Lil almonds mission in life is just to end up planted back in the ground so that it can release its nutrition into the soil. So when we soak or sprout or ferment grains, legumes, nuts seeds, We are basically tricking them into thinking that they have been planted. And so they release all of their nutrition. They get rid of their anti-nutrients and then we can digest and

Diane: 41:50

it's like pre digesting them,

Adina: 41:52

exactly, and again, it's not like, it's even properly prepared, nuts seeds. Legumes.Grains may not be a good idea in like a healing phase of a protocol. 'cause again, like it might just not be worth risking that irritation, that robbing of nutrition when you're working so hard to nourish yourself and heal

Diane: 42:13

Yes, absolutely. And there are definitely other nutrient dense. Fats that you can bring in, in place. If you like, say your nut mixes as your healthy snack, and that's what you have looked to as your, your healthy snack. How can you give yourself some more variety? So maybe it's some guacamole, maybe it is some coconut butter or looking to your last meal. How can you make that one more filling so that you don't feel like you're reaching for a couple of handfuls of nuts, an hour or two later?

Adina: 42:48

Yeah. And you were touching on, some flours that might be better options to replace than just like straight up two cups of almond flour. Because if you think about how many almonds are in two cups of almond flour, if that's in a recipe like you were eating hundreds of

Diane: 42:59

That’s a lot of nuts.

Adina: 43:02

So if you've had the experience where. You thought to yourself, but I'm eating paleo. Why does my stomach hurt? Why am I still so bloated? Why do I feel like crap? It might be the nuts. Yeah.

Adina: 43:16

So cassava flour is also a really good option. And I actually just tried for the first time, the cassava pasta from jovial foods. Have you tried it

Diane: 43:24

I bought it when we were in Virginia, because one of my things is going to grocery stores saying, finding things. Yeah, I bought it, but I have not made it yet. Texture. What do you

Adina: 43:33

I, I, on Saturday night I made a cacio e pepe with the cassava flour, just like tons of butter, tons of Parmesan and fresh black pepper. It was so good. So good. And I usually get the Brown rice pasta from, from jovial foods, but, you know, I don't know how they're preparing the rice. And I also do prefer white rice to Brown rice.

Diane: 44:00

What up?

Adina: 44:01

I mean, as far as taste, but also as far as gut irritation. And so I will use the jovial foods pasta as a convenience food, but when I've had a day where I've eaten sushi for lunch and I've made sourdough with rice flour and. I am going to make pasta. I'm like, Oh, I just ate rice for three meals. And some of it was not well prepared so it's nice to have another option. And the cassava, the cassava pasta was really good.

Diane: 44:30

Yeah. Yum, I've also speaking of cassava flour. So I love Otto's because I love flour, which I think they have at whole foods, but also I get mine from thrive market. I've made, empanadas, I've made, a pizza crust and I know that say almond flour. Cauliflower crust pizza is a really popular, I don't like cauliflower pizza at one. Cause I don't like just farting. It's not pizza. It's soggy bottom. I love cassava flour crust and it. The crust that I make ends up, like almost like a nice thin you can make kind of like a Cracker or you can make it thicker if you like a thick pizza crust, but, it's so delicious. So I know that you might not have these in your pantry perhaps, but, it's a way to switch things up and try things out, but just bring some awareness to when you're looking at these gluten-free foods and just notice how many of them, these packaged gluten-free foods are. All almond flour or beans or just cauliflower. And where can you bring some more variety and try some things that are going to be more gentle on that tum tum?

Adina: 45:35

gentle on the tum tum. When you say it like that, it reminds me of like Tom Haverford.

Diane: 45:41

I think I do have a lot of Tom Haverford, like isms.

Adina: 45:45

Yeah. Yeah. So that is, I mean, those are all the trends I wanted to really hit on. I don't know if there's anything else that we missed, but like we said, we were kind of using this, these two episodes as a way to start building out for you. Our framework, the way we like to think about food. And when people ask us about, what do you think about this protocol? What are you think about this diet? We always want to encourage you to take a step back. Think about human physiology. Think about the messages that you're sending to your body. Think about where this food comes from. Think about how does this truly nourish me, is it truly

Adina: 46:22

sustainable? Am I eating enough? Am I eating enough variety and. Start to move away from the dogma of this diet, that diet, this celebrity is doing this and this boyfriend had great results doing that and start to think about what feels really good inside of your body. I know some of these may have completely rocked your world. If you have gone your whole life, thinking that nuts were the healthiest snack that you could eat. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with consuming them. But. Taking a step back, looking at some of these foods, thinking about how you feel when you eat them and start to rebuild those plates out of a variety of nutrient dense food and move away from some of that black, white dogma.

Diane: 47:12

yes. Like it, we love it. And if there are other trends or things that you're seeing pop up, especially early in 2021, when all of the different diets and trends and detoxes and cleanses are everywhere. Leave us a review or respond on our Instagram, let us know what you'd like us to cover. Uh, and certainly we will go deeper on some of these in future episodes, but want to give you a little primer for what to expect and things that you could just pass on.

Adina: 47:44

What are those hard passes, hard pass and what are diets that may have some redeeming qualities. But again, we want you to really look at that whole picture and think about your needs. This is about you inside of your own body and you are in authority in your own body. It is not some diet. It is not some protocol that is going to give you the answers.

Diane: 48:07

Like it, we love it. So eat well, stay hydrated and we'll see you in the next episode.

Adina: 48:14

Love you.